it’s nothing. I’m fine.

Ever feel like you want someone close and want them to back off at the exact same time? That's not a mixed signal — it might be disorganized attachment. In this episode, Amy and Josh break down what disorganized attachment actually is, why it develops, and what it looks like when it shows up in a real relationship (the reach, the panic, the pull away, the panic again). They talk through what genuinely helps — for the person living it and for the partner trying to love them well — through the lens of Emotionally Focused Therapy. Warm, honest, and clinically grounded, like always.

What happens when the ground shifts under work you've built for over a decade? Kim Harris, founder of Distinctive Voice Consulting, doesn't have just one answer — she has several.
In this conversation, Kim takes us through the full arc of her career: two decades of facilitating equity and inclusion training for organizations, nonprofits, and civic groups across the country, and what it's meant to navigate a landscape that's changed dramatically around that work. But this isn't a story about loss. It's a story about range. Kim has spent years building alongside her DEI practice — coaching first-generation student-athletes and their families through the confusing world of college recruiting and scholarships, guiding people through life transitions with the same steady presence she brought to her ministry work in grief and divorce recovery, and lending her voice — literally — to audiobooks, corporate training, and broadcast work shaped by decades on air.
We talk about what it takes to hold that many threads at once, how her own life — growing up in Los Angeles, living overseas, working internationally — shaped her gift for helping people bridge difference, and what she wants every client to feel in the very first conversation, no matter which door they walked through to find her.
If you've ever had to rebuild what "your work" means without losing who you are in the process, this one's for you.
Learn more about Kim and her work at distinctivevoiceconsulting.com.
 
SHOW NOTES
Guest: Kim Harris, Founder of Distinctive Voice Consulting
Website: distinctivevoiceconsulting.com
TikTok: @distinctivevoiceconsult
Instagram: @distinctive_voices
Topics: equity & inclusion training, courageous conversations, college-athlete advising for first-gen families, life transition coaching, audiobook & voice-over work

What happens when the fight is technically over, but you don't feel like you won anything yet?In this episode, I sit down with my best friend Jenni — a therapist, a cancer survivor, and someone who has quite literally watched me fall apart and put myself back together more times than I can count. We talk about what life actually looks like after chemo ends: the strange grief of finishing treatment, the pressure to feel grateful when you mostly feel exhausted, and the identity work nobody warns you about when "surviving" becomes the thing you're supposed to move past.Jenni also opens up about a question that's been sitting with her lately — what it might look like to turn this experience into the work she does with clients, and what it means to sit across from someone going through what she's already lived.This one is honest, funny in the way only two people who've known each other forever can be, and it doesn't try to wrap cancer up with a bow. If you've ever finished a fight and wondered why it didn't feel like finishing, this conversation is for you.

Your partner wants to talk about the relationship. Again. And something in you just... closes. You're not trying to be cold. You're not trying to hurt anyone. But the more they push, the more you need space — and you're not entirely sure why.
In this episode, Amy Prieb, Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, turns the lens on avoidant attachment — the style that gets the least sympathy and is probably the least understood. If you listened to last week's episode on anxious attachment and thought "that sounds like my partner," this one will help you understand what's happening on the other side of that dynamic.
You'll learn where avoidant attachment comes from, what it actually feels like from the inside, and what growth looks like when closeness has always felt more threatening than safe. Spoiler: it doesn't mean you don't care. It means you learned to need less — and that made sense once.

You sent the text. They haven't responded. And now you're spiraling — replaying the last conversation, checking your phone, wondering if you said something wrong. You know it's probably fine. But knowing that doesn't make the feeling stop.
If that sounds familiar, this episode is for you.
Amy Prieb, Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, breaks down anxious attachment — what it is, where it comes from, and how it quietly runs the show in your closest relationships. You'll learn why the reassurance never quite sticks, what protest behaviors actually are, and why you're not too much — your nervous system just learned to work overtime.
This isn't about fixing yourself. It's about finally understanding yourself.

You know that low hum of pressure — successful on the outside, but something feels off on the inside? Mindset coach Mindi Huebner has spent her career helping high-achieving women name exactly that gap, and in this episode, she joins Amy to talk about what's actually underneath it.
Mindi is the creator of the 24 Karat Identity framework, and her work lives at the intersection of subconscious beliefs, self-worth, and success. Together, she and Amy dig into the "achieve to be valuable" programming so many women are running without realizing it — and what it costs us in our closest relationships. Because when you're performing connection instead of receiving it, even the people who love you most never quite get to know the real you.
They talk about why you can't strategy your way out of an identity problem, what shifts in a woman's relationships when she stops proving and starts belonging, and how rest became something structural in Mindi's life rather than a reward she had to earn. Mindi also brings her signature blend of practical, no-nonsense coaching and unapologetic intuition — and yes, the crystals come up.
If you've ever felt like the capable, together one who's quietly exhausted from holding it all, this conversation will feel like someone finally saying the thing out loud.

If you've ever listened to this podcast and wondered where the music comes from — this episode is for you. Joel Dobbins, the musician behind every note you hear on It's Nothing. I'm Fine., joins Amy in the studio for a conversation about music, meaning, and what it's like to build a life around something you love.
You may remember Joel from an earlier episode, where he and his wife Emily talked about holding the joy of parenting alongside a world that so often feels like it's on fire. This time, it's just Joel and his guitar. He shares the role music has played in his life — as an outlet, an anchor, and a way of staying connected to himself and the people he loves — and then he does something we've never done on this show before: he plays several songs live, right there in the studio.
There's something about live music that gets underneath words. Whether you're a musician yourself, someone who processes life through songs, or you just want to finally meet the person whose melodies have been keeping you company all this time, this one is worth listening to all the way through.
Music, creativity, and connection — with a live soundtrack.

"Grow up, Josh. You're being an asshole and I won't have it." Amy actually said that — and privately, she was afraid she'd married a monster. She hadn't. But it took years, a Hold Me Tight® workshop, and couples counseling to figure out what was really going on.
In this episode, we tell the whole story: Josh growing up as a missionary kid who absorbed the message that he was unimportant, unlovable, and last on the list — and how that old wound showed up in our marriage wearing a disguise. It didn't look like hurt. It looked like anger, jealousy, and ultimatums. And it landed squarely on Amy's own raw spot: the fear of being abandoned.
We replay our worst pattern in slow motion — the trigger, the protest, the counterattack, the round-and-round — and share the moment we finally saw that the cycle was the enemy, not each other. If you've ever looked at your partner mid-fight and thought "who ARE you?", this one's for you.
You'll learn what a raw spot is, why anger is often a question in disguise, and how to spot the cycle running your own relationship — because you can't fight an enemy you can't see.
Grab Amy's free guide: The Cycle Running Your Relationship and How to See It Clearly → amypie2.gumroad.com
Show Notes
💛 Free guide: The Cycle Running Your Relationship and How to See It Clearly — spot your cycle, your raw spots, and your protest moves: amypie2.gumroad.com
📓 Ready to go deeper? Stuck in the Same Fight? A Couples Cycle-Mapping Guide ($3.99) and the Tell Me More conversation card deck ($8.99) are also on Gumroad: amypie2.gumroad.com
🏕️ Hold Me Tight® couples workshops with Amy & Josh at HoneyDo Acres in Bellingham, WA — September and November dates open now. Details at amyprieb.com
🌿 Learn more about couples therapy, individual therapy, and EFT intensives with Amy: amyprieb.com
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Amy Prieb, LMFT, is an Emotionally Focused Therapy (EFT) specialist practicing in Bellingham, Washington.